DRAFT December 18, 2003 Meeting Minutes
University of Idaho, Facilities management Bldg, Ponderosa Room
Members Attendance
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UI:
Michael Holthaus, Water Systems Coordinator |
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WSU:
Joe Kline, Construction Engineer |
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UI: Jay
Becker, (Chair), Assistant Director, Utilities and Engineering |
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WSU:
Rob Corcoran, (Vice Chair), Assistant Director, Arch., Engr & Const Services
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Moscow:
Tom Scallorn, Water Dept. Superintendent |
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Pullman: Mark Workman, Director Public Works |
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Moscow:
Steve Busch, City Council Member |
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Pullman: Art Garro, Maintenance & Operations Superintendent |
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Moscow:
Les MacDonald, Director Public Works |
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Pullman:
Barney Waldrop, City Council Member |
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Latah
County: Tom Townsend, Citizen and Latah County Representative |
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Whitman
County: Mark Storey, County Engineer |
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Latah
County: Tom Stroschein, County Commissioner |
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Whitman
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Emily
Adams: City Administrator, City of Colfax |
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Andy
Rogers: Public Works Supervisor, City of Colfax |
VISITORS:
John Bush, UI Professor Geological Sciences; Nancy Chaney, Moscow City
Council-elect; John Dickinson, Moscow City Council-elect; Farida Leek, WSU Ph D
student; Angie Petersen, Drinking Water Analyst, ID DEQ; Hansue Qui, WSU Post
Doctorate Researcher; Kathleen Warnick, interested citizen.
1)
Call to Order
and Approval of November 20, 2003 Minutes
Jay Becker,
the PBAC Chair, called the meeting to order at 2:30 PM. The minutes of the
November 20, 2003 meeting were approved by consensus.
2)
Continued Discussion of possible Declaration of Idaho side of Palouse
Basin as a Ground Water Management Area (GWMA)
Becker reviewed past discussions of the options that have been mentioned or
proposed by various parties for the Idaho side of the Palouse Basin: Critical
Ground Water Management Area (CGWMA), GWMA and continuing the present de fault
GWMA under PBAC as expressed in the Ground Water Management Plan signed by the
two state water agencies. Becker used two maps created by Latah County
technicians for a County Commissioner hearing to point out how small the portion
of the Basin located in Idaho is and the need for Basin-wide action to stabilize
falling Grande Ronde aquifer system water levels. He emphasized that the role
of PBAC becomes more important than ever as more pressure is exerted to
stabilize the falling water levels. Becker reviewed some of the recent projects
and accomplishments of PBAC and emphasized that the earlier PBAC goal of
stabilizing pumping has shifted to stabilizing Grande Ronde water levels. The
technical research undertaken by PBAC has as its goal providing policy makers
with the needed information to make a decision on how best to bring about the
stabilization of the deep aquifer water levels.
This was followed by a discussion of immediate PBAC priorities. Getting the
2002 & 2003 annual reports out and working on better communications were
emphasized. The PBAC web-site needs to be kept up-to-date. Having good data
immediately available has become very important. The topic of geologic truth
versus speculation was mentioned based on some comments at the City of Moscow
groundwater hearing.
Becker proposed having a project report and a budget update at each meeting. He
proposed mailing these out before each meeting. The above needs also led to
suggesting a more successful effort to get student help starting next semester.
Townsend said he did not want to see the State of Idaho pre-empt PBAC’s local,
interstate co-operative efforts based on the poor outcome that resulted when the
Paradise Creek WAG interstate cooperation was largely nullified by state
intervention.
The discussion then turned to whether PBAC should make a recommendation
regarding the petition presented to IDWR for declaration of the Idaho side of
the Basin as either a Ground Water Management Area or a Critical Ground Water
Management Area. A number of important topics were brought up and/or
discussed. Is not a basin-wide effort such as what PBAC is currently pursuing
in the best public interest? Should not any declaration differentiate between
the shallow aquifer system, which is being adequately recharged at this time,
and the deep aquifer system, where water levels have historically been falling
fairly consistently? Will a declaration help or hinder progress and funding
support? At this point Steve Busch recommended that PBAC avoid a statement that
could undermine its effectiveness as research based cooperative. Mark Workman
took this further and recommended that PBAC stay its course following and
upgrading the Ground Water Management Plan as it has been doing and avoid
getting involved in politics. Energy should be put into strengthening PBAC and
procuring more funding. Several members concurred.
Busch said he was excited about the flattening trend exhibited in the data
presented by Les MacDonald on Moscow’s deep well water levels. The data and
trend line appear to show that Moscow’s deep aquifer water levels have been
dropping less and less in recent years. That is, the water levels appear to be
stabilizing. However, Busch also expressed concern that there be a formal
review of the data and its presentation to make sure there are not any surprises
in the conclusions drawn. Kirkland agreed to review the data and have it
checked against other local water level data. When asked how the water level
figures were arrived at Tom Scallorn said that multiple water level readings are
taken each day which are averaged and the averages for each day are used to
arrive at the average for the month. The March monthly average for each year
was used in the graphics because that would give a reasonable estimate of water
levels before each summer pumping season.
John Dickinson asked about Karl Dreher’s stance on possible declaration of the
Idaho portion of the Basin as a ground water management area. In the ensuing
comments, Latah County Commissioner Tom Stroschein, who owns farm property in
southern Idaho where water rights adjudication has been going on for years, said
he did not want to see local water issues go the way they had in southern
Idaho. Based on his experience in the Snake River area, approaching Director
Dreher with a united plan is highly recommended. He said PBAC is a unique group
with a plan for arriving at a solution to the local water supply problem, which
will not be improved by getting the State of Idaho involved. He encouraged
entities to strengthen PBAC and expand monitoring to surface water as well as
ground water in Latah County. And he encouraged all parties to make an effort
to reach a collaborative agreement on what should be done to present to Director
Dreher at the IDWR hearing to be held in February. Stroschein also said he was
committed to coming up with additional funding to move the PBAC plan forward
faster if necessary.
Barney Waldrop said he though Becker’s statement about PBAC providing technical
expertise to help area entities make the best decision on how to proceed was
good and he hoped that IDWR Director Dreher would allow PBAC to continue the
needed technical studies so that a more reasoned decision could be made in a
couple years. This was followed by a question of whether a new model was needed
for the basin.
The discussion next turned to a question about the “model” of the basin
presented by Phil Nesbet at the City hearing. Mr. Nesbet stated that the
eastern portion of the basin is divided into subbasins by east-west ridges in
the basement rock and the apparent subbasin divide between Moscow and Pullman is
caused by a north-south fault line. John Bush said there is no evidence he is
aware of for Nesbet’s proposed ridge under “D” Street in Moscow. He did say he
agreed with Phil about the ancient streams flowing westerly and then out to the
north rather than south to what is now the Snake River Canyon.
Tom
Townsend asked Bill French, a member of the coalition petitioning IDWR for
declaration of the Idaho side of the Basin as a GWMA, what he wanted to see come
out of the request. French said the local entities cannot supply enough water
to meet the needs of growth following present practices. Conservation should be
a major part of all programs to deal with local water supply and the falling
water levels. So far there has been very little conservation in French’s
opinion. PBAC’s timeline for stabilizing deep aquifer water levels by 2020
calls for considerable conservation at the present time which is not happening.
Becker disagreed with French that little conservation is occurring and sited
several examples at WSU and UI which he was personally familiar with. He said
there is a lot of common ground between PBAC and the coalition and encouraged
the coalition members to work with PBAC and the entities to put more
conservation in place.
Townsend stated that the universities have made tremendous strides in
conservation because they have clear control over their water systems. It takes
longer and is harder for the cities to accomplish conservation because of all
the individual decisions involved.
With the PBAC meeting time almost gone, Busch said the City of Moscow will
probably pass a motion at the Monday evening meeting and asked what input, if
any, PBAC would make. Les MacDonald recommended that PBAC continue to focus on
the planning and technical aspects of finding a long-range solution. Mark
Workman moved and Rob Corcoran seconded that PBAC take no action regarding a
recommendation to the Moscow City Council. The motion passed unanimously.
Tom Stroeschein again urged the coalition and all other involved parties to sit
down together. There is a need for a cooperative effort and an immediate
opportunity to show the State of Idaho that local interests can agree on what
needs to be done.
3)
City of Moscow Update on Water Use based on Cleaning of fouled Meters-
PBAC members agreed that the details
in water use and measurement need not be brought before the Committee. The
details can be mentioned in the reporting. Nancy
Chaney reiterated PBAC’s mission and stated that PBAC should stick to its
mission but should be careful to provide definitive data and a clear reporting
method so that there is no quibbling over which figures to use and rely on.
4)
NEXT MEETING DATE
Because a lot is planned for the next PBAC meeting, it will start at
1:30
PM rather than 2:30 PM on January 15 in the Pullman City Hall.
Thursday, January 15, 2004 at 1:30 PM
Pullman City Hall, Large Conference Room, East End
The meeting was adjourned by consensus.
Respectfully
Submitted,
Larry Kirkland
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