For a WORD file of these minutes - click the disc

 

 2000-2001 FACULTY COUNCIL
 MINUTES

2000-2001 Meeting #8, Tuesday, October 17, 2000

 

Present: McKeever (chair), Smelser (vice-chair), Bitterwolf, Brunsfeld, Chun, Coonts, Finnie, Foltz, Fritz, Goble, Guilfoyle, Haggart (w/o vote), Kraut, McCaffrey, McClure, Meier, Nelson, Nielsen, Olson, Pitcher (w/o vote), Thompson, Trivedi

Absent: Goodwin, Hong Observers: 7

 

Call to Order. A quorum being present, Faculty Council Chair, Professor Kerry McKeever, called the meeting to order at 3:35 p.m. in the Idaho Commons.

 

Minutes. The council, by voice vote, accepted the minutes of the October 10, 2000, meeting as distributed.

 

Chair’s Report. Professor McKeever distributed to the council copies of the "Report on Noncompetitive Faculty Salaries," as written and distributed by the Idaho Council of Higher Education Faculty (ICHEF). This report presents an analysis of the noncompetitive salary situation and its implications for the state of Idaho. The final version of the report will have a list of U of Idaho achievements (approved by the Faculty Council) to complement a list from the other institutions. The report will then be made available to the members of the state legislature. McKeever asked council members to email her with suggested listings of accomplishments. She will also contact the president’s office to collect achievement information that may already have been compiled for other reports.

 

The ICHEF met with the governor and presented their case for salary equity. McKeever said that she thought the governor was very responsive to their presentation. A major realization in that conversation was that everyone seemed to recognize that retaining students was more cost effective than recruiting new ones and that the same parallel could be found in the retention of faculty members. The ICHEF also discussed the fact that faculty turnover rates are too high and many faculty members are simply leaving Idaho’s higher education system in lateral moves by accepting comparable positions at other institutions at higher salaries and accompanying improved personal and professional benefits. She said that the faculty leaders explained to the governor and his staff the life of a typical faculty member and the role he/she plays in the university/community/state. While the governor could not make any promises for action, McKeever believes that he now has a better understanding and appreciation for the inequity in faculty salaries and the contributions faculty members make to the economy of the state of Idaho. The governor inquired if there were any other ways to solve the problem, other than raising the base salary rate? The response was an emphatic no! They reminded the governor that faculty salaries were far behind peers now and that the state needed to do something immediately to address this inequity. McKeever believes that the ICHEF presentation made a significant impact on the governor and his advisors.

 

ICHEF is making a commitment to spend "education week" at the legislature contacting every representative and senator. Since faculty leadership changes each year, the group is discussing the concept of hiring a permanent lobbyist to represent higher education faculty members during each legislative session.

 

McKeever said that she is discussing with SBOE/Regents staff the sponsorship of a leadership institute (in the late spring or early summer) which would bring together former and newly elected faculty leaders for leadership training in Boise. She will be looking into ways of obtaining funding for the institute.

 

Provost’s Report. Provost Brian Pitcher noted that there was a parallel discussion that is consistent with the faculty leaders’ discussion with the governor. Some of the higher education leadership has been meeting with the Idaho Association of Commerce and Industry (IACI) to inform them of the importance of Idaho business leaders supporting the enhancement of public and higher education. President Hoover will be addressing IACI’s Public Affairs and Education Committee soon. An IACI study group has recommended supporting the SBOE/Regents’ recommendation for salary and program enhancements. IACI will probably support measures for tax relief this year, but the fact that they are having this discussion with higher education officials shows that IACI is concerned about the faculty salary inequity/retention/recruitment problems.

 

International Teaching Assistant Training Proposal. The council then took up for action FC-01-002, a proposal introduced last week for the training of international teaching assistants. It was moved and seconded (Thompson, Foltz) to approve the proposal as presented to the council by the Office of Academic Affairs, as previously published in the minutes of the October 10, 2000, meeting of the Faculty Council.

 

Councilor Nielsen reported that there were many questions raised by faculty members in his college that needed to be answered before a vote could be taken. He suggested that the council wait a week before taking a vote. Chair McKeever urged the council to ask questions now, and then make a decision about when to vote on the proposal.

Discussion of the motion followed between council members, Vice Provost Dene Thomas, Director of the International Programs Office (IPO), Michael Whiteman, and Steve Springer, Coordinator of the American Language and Culture program of the IPO.

 

Comments/Questions/Answers: How are the tests given in other countries and are the tests valid if given to prospective international graduate assistants (ITA’s) in other countries? For instance, if the exam is given by someone with the same accent as the prospective student is that going to be a valid testing procedure? The IPO has done a lot of research on these tests. The Educational Testing Service (ETS) provides rigorous training for examiners and graders. The tests are often given at a U.S. Embassy Office or USIA Office by native English speakers. The SPEAK test that is given on the Idaho campus is a "retired" version of the test provided by ETS. If the test is given on the U of Idaho campus it is free and comes with the course instruction given to ITA’s However, the cost can run up to $125 if the test is given at another location.

 

Does the testing include a section on listening comprehension? Yes, both the TOEFL and SPEAK tests include listening and comprehension skills. A councilor shared his experience with using the test scores to gauge the ability of a teaching assistant to operate successfully in a classroom environment. He said that international teaching assistants who scored 6 on the Listening and Speaking test had no problems communicating with students. A score of 5 required some break-in period, but the ITA adjusted quickly. He also thought that the SPEAK test was a better indicator of readiness for the classroom than the TOEFL test.

 

What does a score of 50 on the Test of Spoken English (TSE) indicate. That score indicates that the ITA is ranked as being a generally effective communicator.

 

What happens if the ITA arrives on this campus and fails the examinations? The proposal specifically calls for a negotiation between all interested parties to seek a resolution to the problem. That resolution might involve course work or reassignment of the ITA to other non-teaching duties. No offer should be made with a contingency clause. Arriving without the necessary language skills will cause problems and it will probably be a challenge to find the right solution. A telephone call to the prospective ITA is probably the most cost-effective and efficient way to gauge their ability to speak English. That call would make the decision of offering an assistantship much easier.

 

Will existing policies be superseded by this new policy? Where the department/college requirements are weaker, they will need to be upgraded. Where the requirements are higher than the proposal, the departmental or college standards would prevail.

 

Provost Pitcher encouraged the council to support the proposal so that the U of Idaho can meet its responsibility to have qualified instructors in the classroom. Councilor Bitterwolf pointed out that another reason to support the proposal is that the Office of Academic Affairs has agreed to pay the full cost of the proposal, and he commended Pitcher and Thomas for agreeing to cover those costs. That is a major change that takes the financial burden away from the colleges and departments seeking ITA’s.

 

Over the objection of Councilor Nielsen, the question was called by Councilor Goble. The council voted to proceed to an immediate vote on the motion on the floor, exceeding the 2/3 majority requirement with a vote of 15 to 5 in favor. The vote on the previous motion was 18 in favor, 0 opposed, and 1 abstention. Therefore, FC-01-002 was adopted by the council.

 

Differential Mandatory Fee Policy. The Faculty Council turned its attention to a presentation and discussion of the "Differential Mandatory Fee Policy" with the Executive Director of Institutional Planning and Budget, Wayland Winstead. Winstead first presented this information to the council when he addressed the council on September 12th to report on Responsibility Center Management (RCM). Within that presentation he outlined the way RCM builds on our present system and promotes change. In that presentation it was recorded in the minutes that:

 

RCM should foster entrepreneurship using predictable resource allocations and by allowing flexibility and liquidity in dealing with finance and personnel issues. This flexibility would include such things as using carry-over funds, salary savings, employment contracts, teaching load distributions, loans, and flexible course-based pricing (currently being presented to the SBOE/Regents) which would permit some departments, for instance, to charge higher matriculation fees for upper-division courses. The increased revenue would then flow directly back to the department. There is also some thought being given to allowing colleges to balance out course load levels by charging a higher fee at the most popular class time periods and offering a reduced fee at the less desirable time periods. (emphasis added)

 

At the October 10th council meeting, the chair of the Budget Liaison Committee, provided the council with the details of the new fee policy being discussed by the administration with the SBOE/Regents. At the end of that meeting the council invited Wayland Winstead to join them for a further discussion of differential fees at the next meeting (today).

 

Executive Director Winstead reviewed the public policy issues that frame any discussion of fee issues and the charge that he has been given by the administration and the SBOE/Regents, which is all based on the U of Idaho’s Strategic Plan.

 

He emphasized that the university is not presenting an actual fee structure, but is seeking guidance from the SBOE/Regents as to the direction the U of Idaho should take in enhancing its ability to pay the costs of instruction in light of the shrinking dollars appropriated by the legislature. One option is getting board permission and guidance to use differential fees in the areas of summer, off-campus, matriculation, graduate, and part-time fees. The main question is: will the SBOE/Regents entertain a proposal for differential fees?

 

Winstead said that this is a discussion about rate setting of permissible fees, not the establishment of new fee categories. The traditional approach in Idaho has been to set a uniform mandatory fee in each fee category. The SBOE/Regents has consciously adopted what could be called a policy of "low fee – low financial aid – high state support" model for funding higher education. Unfortunately, over the last 25 years the share of the general education budget allocated to higher education has declined to about 12% of the general fund. Thus, the model equation will not work any more. The U of Idaho’s ability to offer programs is all too dependent on the marginal revenue that is generated from the uniform mandatory fee. In summer school for instance, our ability to offer a course is driven by getting enough students to take the course (paying the uniform summer fee) to generate enough revenue to pay the instructor to teach the course. Off-campus compressed video courses must also pay transmission fees on top of salaries.

 

He noted that there is a fundamental issue of "fairness." We charge every student the same fee, irrespective of the degree that they earn from the U of Idaho. An engineering major who will graduate to a starting salary of $55,000 plus a signing bonus is charged the same fee as an education major who is expected to work in an Idaho school district for $24,000 a year. The lifetime economic value of an engineering degree is three to four times the value of an education degree and yet we don’t reflect any of those issues in the way that we charge mandatory fees. When fees are a major part of university funding, then students from low cost majors are subsidizing students in high cost majors. Instructional costs are not uniform. An engineering degree is much more expensive to deliver than an education degree, considering the reliance on higher faculty salaries, equipment, and operational and laboratory expenses. The present fee structure does not reflect the value or the cost.

 

Winstead indicated that we already have differential pricing – only it is called by other names. Video Outreach can be priced on a course-by-course basis based on the cost of providing the course. The College of Engineering uses this method and produces about 40% of its graduate credit hours via outreach courses. Those courses are priced much higher than an on-campus course offering. The College of Engineering offers prospective students several choices. They can take the course on-campus, by video outreach, or by compressed video at an off-campus site. In each case the same course is priced differently. We also have professional fees – another form of differential pricing. Some majors pay a higher fee than others, like law and architecture. Some departments can also charge lab fees – another form of differential fee.

 

The Constitution of the State of Idaho prevents some academic areas from ever charging a professional fee. These are areas of teaching that were originally in the general areas of arts and sciences when the university was created by the Territorial Act. All programs that are not enumerated as arts and sciences by that Territorial Act are considered to be "professional programs" that can make application, on a case-by-case basis, to the SBOE/Regents to charge professional fees. Winstead said that our current professional fee practices are unfair. Architecture can charge a professional fee – Art cannot. Another issue to consider is that the university will have professional program students from different academic areas all sitting in an English literature course and all paying a different fee to take the same course. So, professional fees cannot solve the problem, even though the professional fee programs do work. It is also clear that students can avoid the fee by not declaring a major until the last possible moment. The solution to this problem is a differential fee structure based on individual courses, not majors.

 

Winstead believes that differential fees may offer a more effective alternative to the kind of fees that we now have. Having differential fees for summer and off-campus offerings might let the university enjoy the same success it has had with the video outreach course offerings. The idea is that the student will have a choice to pay a higher or lower fee based on the enrollment in the course, rather than not being able to take the course at all.

 

Another issue he noted in the proposal is that some fees could be lower or higher for the same course. A course offered at a not so popular time period could be priced lower than the section offered at the popular time. Students and faculty alike do not seem to like this idea at all. So it is unlikely that such a price differential based on offering time would ever be proposed.

 

Winstead said that since these are highly debatable public policy issues they create lively discussions on the campus. Reasonable people looking at the same set of evidence, based on differing values and weight given the evidence, will come to different conclusions about the desirability of any of the options. Students have opposed, and will continue to oppose most all types of fee increases. Their solution is to have the legislature provide more money to higher education, as it did decades ago. A number of faculty members have serious reservations about how this "test" of differential mandatory fees might turn out. They are all thoughtful and perceptive comments about the negative and positive aspects of the various approaches or scenarios. Winstead said that he does not think that the U of Idaho administration believes that we can resolve all of these issues theoretically, that the best technique is to test this approach. That is the permission that is being sought from the SBOE/Regents. If differential fees are set, then we want to discover under what circumstances they are effective. If they are effective and permissible, then we would like to continue their use. If they prove to be ineffective, then we would discontinue their use.

 

Winstead said that what the U of Idaho is proposing is "permission to propose" differential fees. The SBOE/Regents retain the power of approval of all fees. The U of Idaho is not proposing that the board delegate fee approval to the institutions. If the SBOE/Regents is willing to entertain differential proposals, then the U of Idaho will encourage colleges to propose differential fees within any of the existing fee categories. Differential fee proposals would then be presented to the administration and that would trigger a broader discussion with the U of Idaho’s constituent groups on and off-campus. Only after that process was complete would a specific differential fee proposal be brought to the SBOE/Regents. He reiterated that the administration sees the differential fee proposal as a way to inject flexibility into the financial picture.

 

Winstead noted that it is difficult to tell how any form of higher fees will affect accessibility to academic programs. It is clear that, if we do raise fees, there will have to be an appropriate response in the area of increasing need-based financial aid to prospective students. We do not want to drive out needy students and make education unaffordable. He said the legislature can also play a key role. If they do not want to see fees increase, then they should see to it that appropriations increase for higher education – particularly when the state is enjoying a surplus of funds. The legislature also has the ability to preserve accessibility when the price of higher education goes up, by providing funding for need-based financial aid. The legislature, in fact, has the power to either reinforce the "low fee – low financial aid – high state support" model or change it through their appropriations.

 

He said that a scenario, ten years from now, might be that when a student entered the U of Idaho, the first two years of core curriculum and general education courses would be priced relatively low and uniformly. Then as the student progressed to a particular major, the course fees would reflect the actual cost of offering the degree program. Obtaining a degree in engineering would cost more than earning one in the social sciences. Another scenario might involve the offering of web-based courses. The particular expertise of a department might lead to web-courses that generated a considerable amount of income.

 

Comments/Questions/Answers. Is this plan consistent with the land-grant mission of the U of Idaho? This is a public policy issue where I would say to you that the current level of state funding is inconsistent with the noblest ideals of a land-grant university. We are already making trade-offs with these ideals and what is currently financially viable. We are unhappy with current conditions and the U of Idaho Strategic Plan provides some good ideas for solving those problems. The legislature could solve the problem – but absent that, the university must come up with a solution to enhance the revenue streams to the U of Idaho. Differential fees provide just one tool that we could effectively use.

 

We don’t seem to have anything tangible – something that we can grab a hold of – with this proposal! We have been prevented by the SBOE/Regents from presenting a policy statement. If the board is willing to entertain differential mandatory fees – if they are permissible – they will direct their staff to work with the institutions to propose a tangible policy that contains the framework within which they will consider differential mandatory fee proposals from the institutions.

 

Why won’t expanding our present fee authority be a way to solve the issues? For instance, why not just use this differential fee for summer courses and outreach programs – don’t impose it on matriculation fees! If the SBOE/Regents finds that summer and off-campus fees were permissible and others were not permissible – then that is what we would do. We are asking for guidance from the board in each fee category. The board has restrictions in place that would only allow us to make adjustments in limited areas. However, the board has the ability to do any number of things with the fee structure.

 

Winstead concluded his presentation by explaining to the council that the U of Idaho’s Strategic Plan is not set upon the notion that it cannot work unless the legislature or the regents provide all of the requested funding. The U of Idaho said in that plan that we were willing to do what it took to meet the plan’s objectives. Winstead would recommend to the president that if it comes down to a choice between access and quality, that we should choose quality. He would recommend the fee increases necessary to help the university achieve the objectives that are in its Strategic Plan and to sustain the quality of what we do.

 

Some councilors commented that, if Winstead could argue the need for more state support as eloquently as he has argued the case for differential fees, that there would be no need to change the fee system. Winstead responded by reminding the council that on a previous occasion the U of Idaho was unsuccessful in getting the legislature to use surplus funds to help higher education and he saw little chance that the sentiment will change this year. The state of Idaho no longer sees higher education as a "public" good, worthy of significant state financial support. The U of Idaho cannot take a "vow of poverty."

 

Chair McKeever said that this discussion would continue at a later date, probably after we know the initial reaction of the SBOE/Regents to this proposal. She encouraged council members to post comments to the council web discussion site.

 

Adjournment. It was moved and seconded (Foltz, Goble) to adjourn the meeting. By unanimous voice vote the meeting was adjourned at 5:07 p.m.

 

 

Respectfully submitted,

 

Peter A. Haggart

Secretary of the Faculty Council

 

 

 

 

 Return to the Faculty Council Home Page

University of Idaho, Moscow, ID, 83844